Are Porsche Drivers Being Unfairly Treated?


Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone has recently introduced a significant increase to London’s congestion charge for drivers of gas guzzling cars. Presently drivers must pay £8 per day to enter the ‘congestion change zone’ in the centre of the city. Drivers of hybrids and low emissions vehicles are exempt from the charge, whilst under the new “polluter pays” scheme, drivers of cars emitting more than 225 grams of Co2 per kilometre will pay £25 per day.

It is estimated that the move will effect image30,000 of the worst polluting vehicles in the city – particularly the so called “Chelsea Tractors”, large 4×4 vehicles used by  residents to navigate London’s notoriously rugged terrain. Many Chelsea residents claim that these vehicles are essential for tackling obstacles such as curbs, pedestrians, motorcycle couriers and other small vehicles.

Environmental groups have predictably said that this initiative doesn’t go far enough, calling for an outright ban on such vehicles all together, along with compulsory vegan diets and the donation of all bonuses paid in London’s financial district to the campaign for lesbian whales.

Civil Liberties

Meanwhile, other interest groups have complained that their civil liberties are being curtailed and are unhappy that their fundamental rights to emit more pollution than anybody else are being violated. Observers in London have also noted that nobody seems to have told these people that driving whilst using cell-phones is now illegal, and that pedestrian areas cannot be used as parking spaces – presumably for fear of further upsetting them. 

In a bid aimed at further improving the image of its customers, imagesports car manufacturer Porsche has announced its intention to take legal action against the city of London. Managing Director of Porsche UK, Andy Goss said “Not only is this rise completely unfair to many drivers, but it will also damage London-based businesses of all sizes, and successful people from across the world will start to think twice about basing themselves here if they think they are going to be used as cash cows for City Hall.”

Our opinion?

If you need to drive a large off-road vehicle around Chelsea then that’s your problem. It’s not cool and it’s not clever – you’ll work it out eventually, but don’t be surprised if others might expect you to contribute towards the cost of mitigating your pollution. In the meantime, real car lovers will continue to take advantage of London’s excellent public transport and save the pleasure of driving for more nimble, lightweight and fuel efficient cars on roads outside of London, where they can really be enjoyed.

More info: The Guardian

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You should worry. We’ll be getting the congestion charge to get into Manchester before we get any improvements to buses or trains. They stop half the rail service in the autumn because of leaves on the line and the buses are fairly frequent but 20 minutes walk away. There’s no major cycle routes round here and about a gazillion cars on the road. The roads are busy all day and evening. Who is doing all the driving?

Sorry, but increasing the congestion charge to tackle pollution is a disgrace. It’s a congestion charge, not a carbon tax, and certainly not a tax on people who you don’t like because they earn more than you. And it should stay that way.

If you want to tax people, tax the fuel they use, don’t create additional taxes that are totally irrelevant. If we don’t want Porsche’s on the streets, then ban them completely. Don’t beat around the bush.

Ken should be careful with this one. He’s not going to make many new friends, and he’ll alienate a lot towards Boris.

Boo f*****’ hoo.

The rich should pay more taxes than the poor, since they can afford it.

They’d probably rather have a poll tax… that went really well the last couple of times HM Govt tried it.

“The rich should pay more taxes than the poor, since they can afford it.”

It is not a rich/poor tax it is an emission tax and most poorer people drive older cars with higher emissions. So they are affected more. Richer people will just pay it.

So I say…

“So then the poor can ride the bus where they belong.”

Makes as much sense as your statement.

Disclaimer: I do not believe that statement it was said to make a point. I personally believe in a flat tax system where everyone pays the same rate. If you have high paying skills, education, experience and/or training you should make more money.

“It’s a congestion charge, not a carbon tax”

Yes exactly, it’s a congestion charge. And the impact of congestion is a) more traffic delays and b) additional pollution. So it’s not unreasonable that bigger polluters should pay more. If the 30,000 worst polluters are removed then that can only be a good thing.

It’s not about taxing people that have more money than you, it’s about the principle that with wealth should come responsibility. The fact that you can afford it shouldn’t give you the right to pollute more than anybody else.

I am not against taxes in the right place. The right place in this particular instance is on the fuel. The monies raised from fuel tax should then be spent variously on infrastructure and abatement.

The money Ken raises will not be spent on either. It is more likely to be spent on his army, e.g. the 58 media and marketing personnel he employs, who earn more than the average wage and get 40 days paid holiday per year.

“It’s not about taxing people that have more money than you, it’s about the principle that with wealth should come responsibility. The fact that you can afford it shouldn’t give you the right to pollute more than anybody else.”

You mean like people who purchase carbon off-sets?

Genuinely poor people don’t drive high emissions vehicles, they don’t own vehicles at all.

You may not be aware of this, but vehicle ownership is not universal. It’s like imagining that rich people own several mansions, while poor people own one shack. No - genuinely poor people in the West don’t own their housing at all (though many well-off people don’t, either).

Genuinely poor people already take the bus.

Carbon offsets are largely a scam. You reduce emissions by not emitting, not by paying someone else to emit less.

I think what we have here is a distinction between the poor and the impoverished. The impoverished are uneffected by this measure, the working poor living in London are affected.

There is a difference between the two groups of people. It is possible to be considered poor and still have vehicle ownership.

Perhaps this 2007 Study on Vehicle Ownership from the University of New York will help you with the distinction.

Vehicle Ownership and Income Growth, Worldwide: 1960-2030

One thing which is really crafty and is being done by the glowarmists is the constant suggestion that CO2 is pollution. On the contrary, it is airborne fertiliser.
As to taxing the rich more than the rest of us is not just. Income tax automatically has the rich paying more, but not as a social engineering project. Congestion charges and these so-called carbon taxes are simply wrong.

“One thing which is really crafty and is being done by the glowarmists is the constant suggestion that CO2 is pollution. On the contrary, it is airborne fertiliser.”

Yaaawwwwnnn. Right. And Bush has been a really great president who has really helped to move the world onwards..

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Luckily I don’t have to drive my Porsche in London although I do feel we get a rough ride in Switzerland. I can’t believe the cheeky speed cameras here, hidden behind bushes, bridges and in tunnels. Thats one thing I love about the UK, the big yellow sign that says “slow down for this bit”.
Whats all the fuss about climate change? We had an ice age a few years back…..

Richard, my heart bleeds for you.
Since you don’t seem to understand what climate change is, I’ll explain as quickly as possible. It is a change in our climate and weather patterns, brought about by the indiscriminate emission of large quantities of green house gas, by people like you who are too selfish and ignorant to consider the fact that the earth only has a finite level of resources to support our rapidly expanding race.
It is a pity, since one would assume that in order to acquire the wealth to buy a Porsche one must have slightly higher level of intelligence.

Richard, my heart bleeds for you.

Since you don’t seem to understand what climate change is, I’ll explain as quickly as possible. It is a change in our climate and weather patterns, brought about by the indiscriminate emission of large quantities of green house gas, by people like you who are too selfish and ignorant to consider the fact that the earth only has a finite level of resources to support our rapidly expanding race.

It is a pity, since one would assume that in order to acquire the wealth to buy a Porsche one must have slightly higher level of intelligence.

“by people like you who are too selfish and ignorant to consider the fact that the earth only has a finite level of resources to support our rapidly expanding race”

Ooo-ooh, who got out of bed on the wrong side this morning??

Nice argument, Phil, I’m glad you’re living up to your high intelligence expectations.

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>> by people like you who are too selfish and ignorant to consider the fact that the earth only has a finite level of resources to support our rapidly expanding race.

not to mention people who think that speed cameras are “cheeky” and don’t realise that speed restrictions are in place for a reason - to stop people from you causing accidents whilst driving too fast with thier heads up thier own a***.