Bali – reasons to be disappointed


With some irony, between 15,000 and 20,000 politicians, officials, activists and journalists will have flown this weekend to Bali, putting serious strain on the islands resources to attend the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).

All expectations are that nothing tangible will result beyond making some vague agreements over future plans. Many people will be disappointed on many different levels.

But isn’t this a global emergency? Don’t we need to take action right now? Yes, the consequences of a changing climate are serious indeed, but there are a number of factors which you won’t hear the attending politicians talking about which will drive the outcome next week:

  1. The Science: it still isn’t clear enough. The mass media, and therefore any politician who is seeking re-election will tell you that the science is done. It isn’t. There is more than enough credible science which says that Co2 is driving global warming. But there is a similar amount which says that it isn’t. Most serious punters would put their money the former, but it’s going to take some time for the scientific community to call the result.
  2. Vision: Too many people still believe that reducing Co2 emissions will cripple economies. No doubt some expensive investments will be required, but ultimately moving to a renewable and more sustainable energy supply can only be a good thing. Even if Co2 is found to be irrelevant to global warming, future generations will thank us for our foresight. Unfortunately 4 year election cycles are not compatible with long term vision.

It’s always difficult to decide on action by committee, especially when the committee is as large and represents the wide range of interests that we will see at Bali. The US won’t agree to binding targets unless India and China do likewise, and vice-a-versa. This provides the perfect excuse to wait out for item 1 to be resolved and it draws attention away from item 2.

The positive news is that we may well see long term commitment in principle to tackling the problem being universally approved, albeit without concrete agreement on action.

The negative news is that it will probably take several more rounds of 15′000 person long haul flights to come up with any kind of actionable plan. What kind message does that send out to people who are being asked to conserve energy and pay green tax bills?

See also: What can we expect from Bali, Good News of Bad News?

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Update: A few numbers on Bali related Co2 emissions, courtesy of the Daily Telegraph:

Co2 created by travel to and from the conference: 100,000 tons

Co2 created by conference venues & hotels: 13,000 tons

No of trees required to offset the conference: 136,987

There is absolutely NO scientific proof that carbon dioxide has any influence on our climate, other then a minute one. ALL “proof” is based on theories and computer models, not actual direct evidence - cause there ain’t none! ALL the records from the past show clearly that CO2 did NOTHING to “drive” or “force” any temperature changes. If it did, we would be as hot as hell by now and no life would be possible.

Hans,

By your comment I assume that you will only accept proof once it has actually happened and half the world is underwater. Very smart. Keep on polluting.

No proof you say? Except that the planet is getting hotter and we are dumping billions of tons of Co2 into the atmosphere every day. Seems like there might be a connection there??

Since when are 2 things happening at the same time proof of causation? I continue to see more and more research pointing to other factors besides CO2 as the cause, but that always gets ignored. Why?

Even though I’ve purchased a car that gets 32mpg, put in cfl’s in my home, a high efficiency furnace and appliances, still 20% of my income goes toward energy costs. If we do what the UN and Al Gore wants, it will go to what, 30% or 40%? I’ll pass on that, thanks.

What exactly is wrong with global warming, anyway?

Isn’t it the rare interglacial warm period that has allowed humanity and civilization to blossom over the last 10,000 years or so?

Deaths from global warming can be avoided by (a) air-conditioning, bigger and better units, and (b) getting out of the way of larger high tides.

Hurricane deaths can be minimised by bulding bigger and stronger concrete structures and cellars, thcker glass and roof structures etc. Nothing out of the ordinary, or too onerous in terms of cost.

Mosquito-borne diseases can be nipped in the bud by DDT and other effective insecticides being propogated in CFC fueled aerosols. Droughts can be mitigated by building bloody big dams in watercourses, espeially in areas where intensive farming/grazing is important.

Global warming is EASY to get around - slipping into the next Ice Age while these hypocrites are sunning their pallid carcasses on Bali beaches just makes me want to puke.

What’s wrong with Global Warming?? Are you serious???

All of your mitigation ideas sound nice. I assume you are offering to pay for them for the entire 3rd world who will be most impacted??

Um, yes, I’m totally serious.

You are saying the Third World will be most impacted - by the “perhaps” ramifications of global warming.

The Third World will be suffering far more economic duress if the Al Gores of this world get their way - no development (i.e. energy use) in the Third World at all.

Really, AGW is the 21st century Malthusian attempt to kill off the “brown” people, which has a significant chance of achieving its evil aims.

Joel, I suggest that you seriously think through the philosophical end-game of reducing carbon emissions by 60% of yr 2000 levels by 2050 (and for what result??).

The strain put upon Bali by the Conference is piffle in the wind compared to the strain put upon the island by deforestation. A peat forest cut down is as great an emitter as a city of the same area. Bali has been largely deforested and is now cleaning up around the edges. Indonesia is the number three emitter of CO2 despite a low standard of living. Natives are breathing smoke. You can see the smog pall that lies over South East Asia, parts of China and Indonesia from space. There’s good reason to hold the Conference in Indonesia. And that’s where the off-setting tree plantations are needed most.

The CTV (Canadian TV News) just showed a picture of Stephen Dion (the current leader of Canada’s official opposition party) shaking Al Gore’s hand at the Bali Climate Change Conference. I wonder if Al Gore knows that Dion was the former Canadian Environment Minister (under the previous Liberal Government) at a time when emissions in Canada (post Kyoto) went through the roof. If Al Gore knew Dion’s past I doubt he would be publicly embracing him.

How can the Liberal Party of Canada claim ownership of the environment when it was their government that ratified Kyoto and did nothing during their tenure in power to reduce emissions. It was under the Liberals that Canadian emissions are now some of the worst in the world and place Canada as the second worst per capita emitter after the US. The world should know that the Liberal Party of Canada under Stephen Dion is merely playing lip service to the issue of climate change just to get back into power.